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December 2011
12/20/11 (1st day of the page): As is known to us all, Christmas is coming fast and is less than a week away. If you could pick one game, that you have or don't have, to get on Christmas, what would it be? Why? 12/21/11: Today, the 21st, is the typical day for the occurrence of the winter solstice, supposedly the coldest day of the year when the Sun sets around 4:30. In observance of this, what game has the best Ice or Snow world/level you've ever seen? What if there were a game that was entirely an Ice world? 12/22/11: One of the most popular franchises by Nintendo has to the Super Smash Bros. series, and it is the theme that has drawn the most ideas on this wiki. Out of all the characters in any of the titles, which do you see yourself being the most like, or most eager to be? Do you have a preference that isn't in any of the released titles, but reasonably could be (perhaps from one of the ideas on here; remember it must be reasonable, like from Mario or Fire Emblem)? 12/23/11: One of the most talked about games these days is Skyrim, one in a series of open-ended role-playing games that involve prophecies and quests on a divine level. What is your favorite open-ended RPG? What do you think would be a good theme for a new one? 12/24/11: Christmas Eve is now upon us, the day when hopefully all the preparation for Christmas Day ends and the legend of Santa Claus flying around the world is talked about everywhere. Is there a flying game with a vehicle that you think could be used to fly across the world? Which is it? 12/25/11: In case you haven't noticed, CHRISTMAS IS HERE! As well we all know, Christmas is a time for family and friends. So, what game do you think is the best family game, that anyone can play? 12/26/11: After I got SSBB yesterday, I went to town and made it around 35% percent or over in Adventure Mode, and completed Classic Mode as Link. What game have you made the most progress with in a single day? 12/27/11: Today seems like a good contest day, so who would win in a motor race, Mario or Captain Falcon? What about in a fight? 12/28/11: I'm always excited to see a game sequel come out, because with video games (as opposed to most movies), sequels tend to be better than those which precede them. If you were to see a sequel come out, for which series would it be? P.S. If you have no prior knowledge about Metal Slug, then maybe you can see this for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilzeg_-UoOY. The video showcases gameplay footage of Metal Slug 5, my second favorite of the franchise behind Metal Slug 3.
 * I'd love Gears of War 2 or 3 (and an xbox) for Christmas. I love the multiplayer action (that can also be during the actual campaign!), the game is made really well, the enemies are strong and challenging to kill, the game rewards you for cooperation and strategy, and it's overall a lot of fun. Man, why can't I have a chainsaw gun? However, I don't have an xbox, and the game isn't for any system I have. A game I would want more, though, would definitely have to be L.O.W.! That game is freakin' intense! Especially if I could get the console with it. :D Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!"
 * I'm thinking of going with either Twisted Metal: Black for the Playstation 2 and/or Pokemon Black Version for the Nintendo DS. Let me start off with Twisted Metal: Black; lord, was this a fun title! I really got hooked into the franchise because it was something that started off the "racing combat" game genre as a whole, which combines action AND racing elements together... and that kicked severe ass! If there is one game I could go back to, it may as well be TM:B. Now I wanna speak about Pokemon Black Version; now the only reason I really want that for Christmas is because there are a hording amount of fans of the series who will never shut up about it. How much hype is Generation V getting, exactly? I won't know until I try out the installment for myself. And from what I've been seeing, most of the Pokemon seem to be like the ones from the Kanto Region, and I guess that has its merits, but not all of them. Anyhoo, hope you all have a Merry Christmas! Weeeeell... "Black Christmas". AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! "I used to be one of Santa's little helpers like you, but I took an arrow to the knee" 00:48, December 21, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian (talk)
 * I'd asked for a few video games this year, but I'd have to say the one I want the most is an account on Minecraft. It's actually a really unique Christmas wish, but it looks so cool. Building a world based on your own imagination sounds like a gaming ideal for me. Which leads to a follow up question for all of you, do any of you have accounts? The other games that I've been hoping to get were Super Mario 3D Land, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, and Kirby's Return to Dream Land. I was going to ask for Pokemon Rumble Blast, but I was pretty skeptical about it. My parents also told me that I won't be getting a Playstation 3 this year, which is a bummer. Beecanoe 01:42, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, Beecanoe, I have a couple of notes first: I'd say don't stress too much about not getting PS3, because I think Nintendo is really where it's at right now. Second, I'll answer you question by saying that I do not have an account here, for security reasons, but I gave a nikcname so that you guys could identify me instead. Now let me say that you have astonished me with your answer, because I have told my dad that one of the things I'd like is, in fact, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, as how could you not want it? I mean, I was pretty psyched when I saw not only how cool and adventuresome it is, but also that the WiiRemotePlus is used so that your sword swings in the direction you move the remote! How awesome is that? Anyway, I was also pondering the idea of a Nintendo 3DS, along with maybe Super Mario 3D Land, but those things are really expensive ( but they're kick-butt advanced), so I think I might get one for my birthday next July. Another thing I definitely want is Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I've watched practically every video of it you can imagine on YouTube, and it's so intense that they had to rate it Teen! A Nintendo game even! Awesome. You guys keep an eye out for my next question! Element Knight 375, 12/20/11.
 * This is a bit of a tough one. I would say Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island in terms of nostalgia value, but probably Super Mario 64 overall. And regarding the second question, if there were an installment to be completely nothing but just icy levels and whatnot, I'd say it would have to be innovative and not too boring. "I used to be one of Santa's little helpers like you, but I took an arrow to the knee" 18:59, December 21, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * It is kind of vexing, but I think my favorite is in New Super Mario Bros. Wii. That place is so completely frozen that if you play it in the winter, it almost makes you physically cold inside. Creepy. The Ice world in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was pretty fun, but the boss at the end terrified me at night for months. Anyway, when I wrote that question about the 100% ice game, I kind of thought the same thing you did: that they would have to make it easily playable and interesting so that you just don't feel like you're running around in snow. Maybe we should work on that. I meant to ask you, why are you always making a reference to some "arrow to the knee"? It's starting to weird me out a bit. Element Knight 375, 12/21/11
 * First of all, Element Knight, he's not just saying "an arrow to the knee" out of nowhere. Some users tend to use quotes with their signatures, some made up. As for the question, there has never been an ice world that has actually wowed me, but I can think of two that stuck out a little. The first is Sector 2 in Metroid: Other M. The visuals were nicely done, and the snow and ice did nothing to hinder control. Plus you get attacked by wolf-like aliens with tusks, which were one of the few enemies that didn't creep me out. There were also these odd-as-hell walrus-things with legs that had golden armored heads which took forever to kill, but I'm not going to go too deep into that. The other one (which is kind of cheating a little), is the Winter cycle in Pokemon Black/White. The creators did a good job of drastically changing the way the game looks (and plays!) when winter comes. Puddles turn to patches of ice that you're forced to slide across, snowhills allow you to access areas you couldn't before, and Cubchoo come out in the Winter. Beartic is its evolution and it is the biz. Beecanoe 00:38, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the enlightenment about the quote, and good answer. I looked up a video of Metroid Sector 2, and it's sick SWEET! I can see why you picked it. And those wolfs aren't too creepy, but they look tough. I'm glad you were able to contribute again. Element Knight 375, 12/21/11
 * I loved the ice levels on NSMBW, and especially the penguin suit! Super Mario 64 had a great ice area, with giant snow man heads. Recently I played Metroid Prime, which has an ice map right after leaving Magmoor, a lava area. Luckily ice water isn't as deadly as Super Mario 64, or the entire Breezeburn galaxy of SMG. But my favorite may in fact be in Yoshi Story, in the third world. Summit, with in either Poochy & Nippy, or Frustration. Hee, hee they feature [SNOW GUYS]! I've never seen a fully snowed game, but any game featured in Russia will have plenty of snow to spare. Yeah metal gear/007. finally, the quote in my signature is a quote from a Brawl in the Family comic for the Christmas season. If you follow the link, you can enjoy some quality [citation?] singing by Waluigi! Enjoy! (Also available on youtube, known as Hark of the Waa) Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 01:58, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, I thinnk you're right on about the all-ice game being in Russia, or somewhere in the Northern-Eurasia area, if the game were to take place on Earth. Next, I totally forgot about Galaxy's Freezeburn! That was probably my second favorite. That's where, I learned, the first Ice Flower was developed! Funny quote, by the way, although by next summer, it may seem kind of weird. (. Element Knight 375, 12/22/11
 * http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2011/12/24/2863/ Genius Guy #445 (talk)  18:52, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely the most like Olimar. When it is required that a difficult task is done, I usually prefer to have others do it for me, preferrably as many as possible. Therefore, that would reflect Olimar's constant use of Pikmin in his attacks (and how he sucks by himself). Or I'd be like Snake, using tactics on the battlefield rather than brute strength, because, if I were in a fight, I'd prefer grenades and C4's rather than just using my fists. Beecanoe 21:57, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL, that's a good answer, the thing about Olimar. I can picture that pretty easily. As for me, I kinda like Toad, but it would definitely be Link for me. He's courageous, selfless, and good in a fight. Everything I aspire to be. Plus I've had my sword and shield fantasies in my day. I can't wait to get SSBB myself. It'll be awesome! Element Knight 375, 12/22/11
 * For the most part, I'd say I'm definitely like Captain Falcon. One thing for sure, I'm one to act as if he has the right amount of hotbloodedness and over-the-top mannerisms (not on the internet, though). Which perfectly reflects Falcon for me. He's very much like the Chuck Norris of the Nintendo universe, only he has that EPIC Falcon Punch that you see in the anime! And a fun fact: C. Falcon's voice actor is the same guy who does Vegeta's voice in the Japanese version of Dragon Ball Z (Ryo Horikawa). "I used to be one of Santa's little helpers like you, but I took an arrow to the knee" 22:14, December 22, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * That's a good one, too. Funny thing, I actually recommended Captain Falcon's green palette swap to my dad for a go-to character once I get it. I really like the criteria by which you decided on Cap Falcon, Ouro. That's the kind of thing I usually go for when picking a favorite character in a game. I wonder what Geniusguy's favorite will be, if he decides to answer. If he does, I wonder which one of us would win in an actual brawl! Food for thought. Thanks for putting up an answer Ouro, and keep coming back! Element Knight 375, 12/22/11
 * As seen from two of my favorite Brawl characters, I'd prefer Ike or Wario. I believe I have (at least some of) the strength to single hand weild a 2h sword, and I love elemental attacks. "I fight for my friends." How noble. What a fighter. If not, then I'd aspire to be quick witted, super humanly strong, ultra intuitive business sense, all with a no-nonsense yet still full of comedy guy like Wario. He may be fat, smelly and garlic addicted, but I wish that I could become a super hero when I have garlic bread, I wish I have a customized motorcycle that can go at 217 miles an hour with terrible fuel efficiency, I wish I could enlarge my fists when I punch or clap for an easy KO, and I wish I had his kind of money. He owns more than 5 vehicles each with different uses (He has a private plane), he owns a couple castles, he owns a video game company, and he is skilled enough with electronics to make devices to get him more money in seconds. However, he has terrible endurance. Ah well, everyone has weaknesses. And strengths. Like any king in that game. Sigh, I'd even be happy to be a Shy Guy. toodles! Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!"
 * I don't have a particular favorite open-ended RPG title or any other on at all. Maybe because I have an incredibly limited knowledge on the genre and I have no care for it. However, if there is ONE game I could talk a few things about, it's either the very first Fable game released on the Xbox or Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, which I had a pretty hard time with when I was younger. And regarding a theme for a new sort of open-ended RPG, I guess it could revolve around the time of a zombie apocalypse. "I used to be one of Santa's little helpers like you, but I took an arrow to the knee" 21:40, December 23, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * Yeah, I don't really like open ended RPGs either, cause they confuse me. But my favorite is definitely Morrowind. My sister would always play it and I qould watch and play a little bit. Actually, I tried to start a game recently but I just couldn't make good progress, so now I play Super Mario Galaxy. I think a good theme, however, would be like Star Wars or something close to Harry Potter. Thanks for answering! Element Knight 375, 12/23/11
 * I still kinda like Runescape. As casual as it seems, it doesn't require too much effort, and is very open ended. But then again, almost by definition, RPG's are open ended, and revolve around quests. Having said that, Mario series RPGs usually have a final goal more than just ranking the highest. Of those, I like Paper Mario, Super Mario RPG, and Mario & Luigi: Superstar saga. As in the only ones I've played of those series. I like games that are a mix of something and RPG's. The three I listed all have action, humor and platforming objectives, which makes RPG's more bearable. That's why you'll notice that 5th Dimension is a shooter-RPG. Right now, I'd like more games with that sort of combo. Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 02:48, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Kirby Air Ride is pretty much a racing game that, for the most part, involves a lot of flying elements. So in truth, if I were to fly across the world, I would use Kirby's Dragoon. "I used to be one of Santa's little helpers like you, but I took an arrow to the knee" 18:02, December 24, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * Whoa, that was prompt. Makes sense too. I think I might use an Arc Fighter from Star Wars Battlefront Ii. That thing can fly in space and over land, and has sick maneuverability. By the way, I read some of the scripts from Epic Saga Wiki just before I wrote this up! It's great as long as you don't kill Nintendo's greatest heroes at the end, especially Link and Mario (you might wanna dial the swearing down a bit too). Element Knight 375, December 24, 2011.
 * Hey, now! Whose idea was the Epic Saga franchise? Beecanoe. Who writes the scripts down? Perhaps me and Beecanoe... although you won't find the latter as much. Also, it's not like any of the Nintendo characters are really being considered marked for "death", unless Beecanoe decides it for himself. And swearing? {sighs} This was only most prominent in Ouroburos vs. Beecanoe according to the scripts, but I wanted to make that one darker than the other installments. Now it's sometimes a bit faint, and sometimes it's not faint. "I used to be one of Santa's little helpers like you, but I took an arrow to the knee" 19:18, December 24, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * It's rated teen for a reason. Plus, as for dying, do any game characters of nintendo actually die? Mario x3 > Mario x2 > Mario x1 > Game Over. (Then again, SM64. Or any 3d platformer, Mario can choke to death, etc.) As for the actual question, I wouldn't mind flying around the world in the Halberd. Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!"
 * Ah, but do any of these games truly end in death? The game isn't really over until you reach the end alive. If a Nintendo character were to die and not come back by the time the Saga ends, that is a true end of that character. For example, in Twilight Princess, you die many, many times. This goes for the Mario games as well. But in the end, Link ends up killing Ganon and Mario always manages to save the princess. Death is not an engraved part of the storyline, as it is here. Plus, if you're going to leave the swearing and suggestive themes in there the way it is, you might as well rate it Mature, cause that's where you're going with it whether you like it or not. Element Knight 375, December 24, 2011.
 * Games don't end in death; that was my point. (Yes, I may adjust Notorious to match that point. Luckily, Nintendo doesn't mind eternal corruption/mutation/enchantment/imprisonment as long as it doesn't result in death. Nice.) So we shouldn't really kill them (Mario or the main main heroes only. Roid, Zeitgeist, who needs em? *Slight Sarcasm). And I think we should aim for a teen rating as teen rates games as having (content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language). That's why my additions have mainly been to increase the wit, as quick thinking is harder to create then just swearing. E.g. "You're ugly." "Well, maybe you should up your prescription to see me better." is more enjoyable than "You're ugly." "Yeah? **** off." Wow creativity for the last one was off the charts. *Ultra sarcasm -_- Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 04:40, December 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * YO! Merry Christmas Everyone! Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 15:00, December 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm really not one to answer out of the box, because I'm the mediator and I usually respond. However, I GOT SKYWARD SWORD AND SSBB FOR CHRISTMAS! Yeah man, I got 'em real good! Ahem...thank you for your attention. As for my own question, my favorite family game is Wii Sports Resort. Wii Sports came to my mind at first, but the diversity in sports tends to make Resort the better option in my eyes. Now for a sappy Christmas monologue: "It is a recent occurrence that I have become a real contributor to this wondrous wiki, and I prize this contribution beyond anything you can possibly imagine. Your acceptance and patience with me is unthinkably appreciated, executive contributors, and I hope to have a long future here. A merry, merry Christmas to all of you and a prosperous new year!" Element Knight 375, December 25, 2011.
 * Gaming wise, New SMB wii, Kirby return to dreamland and band hero. We had some fun today :). As for the rest of my presents, check ETG's blog. Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 00:04, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * For the opposite, Metroid Prime. "We did so much today! Wait 1% complete?! Wha-?" That's more notable than any other game. Beyond flash games. Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 19:37, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * It always does frustrate me when you work for hours only to get barely any progress, although some is better than none. I think the most progress I ever made was finishing Avatar: The Burning Earth in about 8-10 hours. Element Knight 375, December 27, 2011.
 * When it comes to a motor race, I'd say Captain Falcon. Why? Apparently, it looks like he tries to soup up his vehicle as much as possible. Sorry, Mario fans. And if it comes down to a fight... CAPTAIN FALCON!!!! Mario may be versatile at times, but you must admit that Captain Falcon's one great weapon is his Falcon Punch and KNEE OF JUSTICE!!! He's like the Chuck Norris of the Nintendo Universe, as I probably said before. "You cannot escape the wrath of my almighty bunghole!" 19:03, December 27, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * I have to agree on the Captain Falcon bit, although it would be close in a Mario Kart context where attributes were limited. However, I think Mario might take the fight because although Falccon has some good moves, Mario is lighter and faster, and can deal a pretty damaging hit under the right conditions. Element Knight 375, December 27, 2011.
 * I'd say Cap. Falcon for both. His racer would easily out race any kart in the Mario universe, and his moves are better when coupled with his speed. Mario would put up a good fight, but I think Falcon would win in the end. Geniusguy445 (talk) "Christmas is here. Presents are near. To only me. Waluigi!" 03:09, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I actually pitted Captain Falcon and Mario against each other in Brawl. It was a no-item fight on Final Destination with both CPUs on level 9. Mario won by a practical landslide, so that seems like proof that he'd win. "I'll kill you with my sword!" Element Knight 375 01:47, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Possibly either Pikmin or Metal Slug. For the former, we of course might as well see Pikmin 3 hit the Wii U sometime soon. I find Pikmin to be one of the most underrated franchises of Nintendo, yet there are fans who surprisingly love the games nearly to death. As for the latter, the Metal Slug series is one of the fewer shooter-related installments that don't bore me to death. Why? Because they were mostly made by SNK (excluding Metal Slug 4, which was developed by Korean company Mega Enterprise), have awesome soundtracks, and simplistic plots. If I would love to see Metal Slug get a future sequel, please hope that SNK Playmore listens to their dear fans and make a Metal Slug 8. They did so well with King of Fighters XIII, so hopefully success could be on their side once more. "You cannot escape the wrath of my almighty bunghole!" 03:41, December 28, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * That's not a bad answer. This will really surprise you, I'm sure, but one sequel I'd like to see is a fourth installment of the Sly Cooper series. I've been playing those games for years upon years and the plots are nothing short of phenomenal. The fighting is also pretty dynamic. Aside from Sly 4, another Smash Bros. would be nice (and we reeeaalllly have that one covered), because I'd really like to see Toad and Daisy, and perhaps characters like Ghirahim, Fi, and Midna. (Plus, by popular demand, there really should be more Sonic characters. That much is clear.) The biggest difficulty in that area is deciding exactly which characters should go in. I'd love feedback for that, because I'm announcing that at some point I will write my own Smash Bros. article. Element Knight 375, December 28, 2011.

12/29/11: I'm always interested in games where characters from universes meet (well, crossovers I should say), because you never know how they're going to interact with each other. What's your favorite crossover game? What makes it your favorite? 12/30/11: In all gaming, the thing I probably hate the most is getting stuck on a level, with no way out to speak of. Which level in a game do you most hate being stuck on? 12/31/11: Happy New Year everyone! I hope you can all take a break from partying to answer my question, because it's a good one. New Year's Eve always causes me to realize either how long or how short a year is. Has it ever taken you a year to beat a game? Did it feel like it took that long?
 * I think you should've put the question as "What's your favorite crossover series?", but that's more of a minor nitpick. And onto the question, I would say my favorite crossover title is quite possibly Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes. Despite it being heavily unbalanced for a fighting game, players can find nearly everything memorable about it in comparison to Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (I reviewed Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 on this wiki), which is somewhat forgettable in the music department and is made up of mostly obscure and newer characters. I will say though that at least MvC3's character models (not that it matters) look surprisingly better than what you see in Street Fighter IV... and I literally got turned off by the inky art style when I first saw it. "You cannot escape the wrath of my almighty bunghole!" 18:33, December 29, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * I really like the Super Smash Bros. series, as they feature many types of characters, and you get to view a comparison of them to other Nintendo characters. Each difference is accented is the campaigns, and you see the personality of each distinctly. Like how Marth thinks before charging into a situation, and Meta Knight doesn't. That sort of thing. Genius Guy #445 (talk)  00:23, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, Ouro, I did mean game, because it entails a particular preference within a series. However, I won't stop you from bringing up your favorite series. As for the question, I think SSB is pretty sweet too, although I haven't had much experience (I have no doubt that I'll have to look up how the living HECK I get through that maze near the end). I also like Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, because the plot was really epic and it acts as a massive collection of character diversity, which I always look for. If I had to pick one to be made, I'd say it would be The Adventure of Mario and Link. It may need touching up, but it has one of the best plots I've ever conceived.
 * I have none in particular, but there IS one that I feel which annoys me to end; that is Squeals on Wheels from Donkey Kong Country 3. Oh, some can say it's rather easy. {scoffs} I beg to differ, as finding which way to go is simply tedious for me. With all the Buzzes circling the Squeals inside the wheels, that makes it a bit worse. "You cannot escape the wrath of my almighty bunghole!" 20:50, December 30, 2011 (UTC)Ouroburos.TheNewSaurian
 * Metroid. There is never ever a way out. "Oh but the whole point of the series is exploration!" Yeah? SM Galaxy featured some, and I didn't go insane with it! Metroid is one long continuous GAME of the one level you get stuck on for no reason! I can get pretty stuck on random levels because of goombas in just the right places, but Metroid without any upgrades in much, much worse. That said, it is just as insanely rewarding to get somewhere finally, that it almost makes up for it. Almost. Genius Guy #445 (talk)  01:24, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * This may not warrant respect, but I have a lot to choose from. One frustrating one is in Sly 3 just near the end where you have to swim through a water tunnel where monsters try to attack you from the sides, and it's really hard to dodge them. I also have a problem with Donkey Kong Country Returns with the rocket level where you have to avoid bats. That one is punishment. The thing in Fantastic where you have to seal the space station as the Human Torch is excruciating. All in all though, the first one is definitely the worst. Element Knight 375, December 30, 2011.
 * I've found that only puzzle games and RPGs can take years. They are really the only games you can "chip away" at the requirements and the levels, as the rest need perpetually honed reflexes. I've never taken a year to constanstly over come a game, mainly because i don't have that kind of patience to constantly play. If not constant, i don't count the time taken to fully beat it. I just forget about it. The other games that take a while are the ones that won't admit you won. Paper Mario, I'm looking at you. Anyways, HAPPY NEW YEAR! Genius Guy #445 (talk)  03:20, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't think of many games that have taken a year... one of the 007 games might be one, or maybe something like Lord of the Rings or Sly. You know, I once heard that it took Dom Monaghan, who played Merry in the Lord of the Rings movies and voiced him the games, 3 1/2 years to finish Return of the King! At the same time, he said that he'd only been gaming for about 4 years. I mean, it's definitely hard without codes, but come on! I could finish like 2 Zelda games in that time. Oh well, I guess we all have our pace. Anyway, a very happy new year to all of you who see my answer, and I hope this glorious think tank of a wiki continues to fluorish and grow, and maybe live the dream of having ideas become reality. Element Knight 375, December 31, 2011
 * I've had Pokemon FireRed for 8 1/2 years and I still haven't beat it.....  Gibie Dude